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03/29/2012 01:00 PM Senate TRANSPORTATION


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01:03:41 PM Presentation: Parks Highway - Wasilla Bypass
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
            SENATE TRANSPORTATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                          
                         March 29, 2012                                                                                         
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Albert Kookesh, Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Linda Menard                                                                                                            
Senator Charlie Huggins                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Joe Thomas, Vice Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Dennis Egan                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: PARKS HIGHWAY - WASILLA BYPASS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PAT KEMP, Deputy Director                                                                                                       
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF),                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented information related to the Parks                                                                
Highway-Wasilla Bypass.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ROB CAMPBELL, Central Region Director                                                                                           
Department of Transportation and Public Facilities (DOTPF)                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented information related to the Parks                                                                
Highway-Wasilla Bypass.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JIM AMUNDSEN, Project Manager                                                                                                   
Central Region Design/Engineering                                                                                               
Department of Transportation                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided information related to the Parks                                                                 
Highway-Wasilla Bypass.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KENNETH RAY, representing himself                                                                                               
Fairview, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  favor of  the Parks  Highway-                                                             
Wasilla Bypass.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DIANE WOODRUFF, representing herself                                                                                            
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified   on  the  Parks  Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass project.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ROGER PURCELL, representing himself                                                                                             
Houston, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified against the  Parks Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DALLAS MASSIE, Commander                                                                                                        
American Legion Post                                                                                                            
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified against the  Parks Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PAUL GARDNER, representing himself                                                                                              
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified against the  Parks Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BETH BASSNEY, representing herself                                                                                              
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified against the  Parks Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BETH FREAD, representing herself                                                                                                
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified against the  Parks Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT HALL, representing Mayor Thompson                                                                                        
Houston, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified against the  Parks Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TIM SWEZEY, representing himself                                                                                                
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified during  the discussion of the Parks                                                             
Highway-Wasilla Bypass.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BILL KRAMER, President                                                                                                          
Big Lake Community Council                                                                                                      
Big Lake, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT: Testified  in  favor of  the Parks  Highway-                                                             
Wasilla Bypass.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BERKLEY TILTON, Member                                                                                                          
Knik Fairview Community Council                                                                                                 
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified against the  Parks Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
VERN RUPRIGHT, Mayor                                                                                                            
City of Wasilla                                                                                                                 
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Testified   on  the  Parks  Highway-Wasilla                                                             
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:02:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ALBERT  KOOKESH called  the Senate  Transportation Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 1:02  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Menard, Huggins, and Chair Kookesh.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
         ^Presentation: Parks Highway - Wasilla Bypass                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KOOKESH  asked  Senator  Menard  to  provide  introductory                                                               
comments  on  the  business before  the  committee,  the  Wasilla                                                               
Bypass.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  related that  she requested  the hearing  so that                                                               
the Department of  Transportation (DOT) can present  its plan for                                                               
the Parks Highway from Lucas Road  to Big Lake Road to the Senate                                                               
Transportation  Committee. She  noted that  a petition  with over                                                               
600 signatures has been circulating regarding this project.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH requested  DOT to present their  information on the                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:03:41 PM                                                                                                                    
PAT  KEMP,  Deputy  Director, Department  of  Transportation  and                                                               
Public Facilities (DOTPF), introduced Rob Campbell.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ROB   CAMPBELL,   Central    Region   Director,   Department   of                                                               
Transportation  and  Public  Facilities  (DOTPF),  described  the                                                               
presentation format  and noted that  Jim Amundsen would  speak on                                                               
technical questions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAMPBELL  showed a  map that depicted  the project,  which is                                                               
located outside  of Wasilla on the  Parks Highway and is  about 8                                                               
miles long. He  said the primary focus of the  presentation is on                                                               
the first  segment of  the project. He  addressed the  purpose of                                                               
the project,  which is  to move  goods and  services safely  on a                                                               
National  Highway   System  (NHS)   route,  the   Parks  Highway.                                                               
Currently, that  purpose is  not being  met due  to overcapacity.                                                               
The goal  is to  address safety  problems caused  by uncontrolled                                                               
access and congestion.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAMPBELL  showed the proposed  4-lane divided highway  with a                                                               
center median that separates on-coming  traffic. He said that one                                                               
of the  major causes  of fatalities  on the  road now  is head-on                                                               
collisions.  It is  ranked  number one  for  head-on crashes.  He                                                               
emphasized the need for a safety  corridor on this section of the                                                               
highway. He said  the 4-lane divided highway was  selected due to                                                               
safety and efficiency advantages.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He continued to explain the  goal of improving system efficiency.                                                               
He talked about the disadvantages of 5-lane sections.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH asked what AADT means.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAMPBELL replied that is means average annual daily traffic.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:09:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  CAMPBELL  reported  on the  public  involvement  during  the                                                               
phases  of the  projects. He  provided  a brief  synopsis of  the                                                               
meetings DOT has  held on the project, which has  about an 8-year                                                               
history.  He listed  the meetings  held during  the Environmental                                                               
Assessment (EA) Phase and the Design Phase.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He listed  the adopted plans  currently in place. He  pointed out                                                               
that the project was consistent  with all of the local government                                                               
development plans.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He addressed the  economic impact over which there  has been some                                                               
controversy.   He maintained that  studies to date  indicate that                                                               
median projects  generally have little overall  adverse impact on                                                               
business activity. He  listed the advantages of  having safer and                                                               
faster access to businesses.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He addressed right of way  impacts, which are shared during every                                                               
public  meeting.  He  described   the  process  of  working  with                                                               
individual property owners on site-specific issues.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:13:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MENARD asked  what percentage  of  property owners  have                                                               
been dealt with.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JIM     AMUNDSEN,     Project     Manager,     Central     Region                                                               
Design/Engineering,   Department  of   Transportation,  said   20                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CAMPBELL  showed  a  picture  of  right-of-way  issues  that                                                               
includes  how  solutions  are  continuing  to  develop  for  each                                                               
property.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked for more information about frontage roads.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CAMPBELL showed  a slide  that  portrayed proposed  frontage                                                               
roads. He deferred to Mr. Amundsen to add more information.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD  inquired  about  side road  width  for  frontage                                                               
roads.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAMPBELL  said he  did not  know; they  were determined  on a                                                               
case-by-case basis.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD asked if frontage  roads were three times the size                                                               
of a bicycle trail.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS opined that frontage  roads should be parallel to                                                               
the main road.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CAMPBELL agreed.  He noted  that some  are not  parallel and                                                               
require an intersecting road.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:17:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  KOOKESH asked  what the  light  green color  on the  slide                                                               
depicts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  AMUNDSON explained  that it  is an  existing roadway  and an                                                               
existing right-of-way. He showed  which roads were frontage roads                                                               
and  those  that  would  be extended  without  having  to  remove                                                               
businesses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CAMPBELL  addressed environmental impact issues.  He noted it                                                               
is  a challenging  project and  involves a  lengthy process  that                                                               
includes  numerous  public  meetings.  He stressed  the  need  to                                                               
improve the  safety in the  current corridor. He  emphasized that                                                               
DOT is  listening to people  and the  result would be  a facility                                                               
that would greatly improve the  safety and mobility of the people                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD noted  the whole  project was  funded by  federal                                                               
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:21:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   HUGGINS  said   that   people   would  have   competing                                                               
perspectives on the project.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH opened public testimony.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
KENNETH  RAY, representing  himself,  testified in  favor of  the                                                               
Parks  Highway-Wasilla Bypass.  He  agreed that  there have  been                                                               
many  public hearings  and input;  however,  he said  he did  not                                                               
trust the special  interest requests. He opined that  DOT must be                                                               
sensitive to property owners and  businesses. He said the project                                                               
has been fairly well run and he spoke in support of it.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:24:40 PM                                                                                                                    
DIANE  WOODRUFF, representing  herself,  testified  on the  Parks                                                               
Highway-Wasilla Bypass project. She  related a concern that there                                                               
has been no resolution by  the Wasilla Planning Commission on the                                                               
project.  She said  that  DOT made  a  presentation to  Wasilla's                                                               
planning  department and  was told  that it  was consistent  with                                                               
Wasilla's comprehensive  plan. She  noted that DOT  was listening                                                               
to concerns and making changes.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:26:45 PM                                                                                                                    
ROGER PURCELL, representing himself,  testified against the Parks                                                               
Highway-Wasilla  Bypass. He  opined that  DOT has  been deceptive                                                               
during the  project in order  to promote the  preferred alternate                                                               
route. He said they misrepresented  Houston's position. He opined                                                               
that there  was inadequate public  notice. He said that  there is                                                               
no mention of the Houston comprehensive plan in the packet.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD requested DOT's opinion.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. AMUNDSEN  related the process used  to meet with the  City of                                                               
Houston  and how  updates were  communicated. He  maintained that                                                               
DOT is meeting  its obligations and commitments.  He took offense                                                               
at Mr. Purcell's implications.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  asked if the  project timeline would be  two more                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. AMUNDSEN said yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS pointed  out  that the  issue  of extending  the                                                               
project to Hawk Lane is not  a dead issue. He addressed the issue                                                               
of the  intersection of Big Lake  Road and the Parks  Highway and                                                               
stated  that it  is an  ongoing discussion.  He said  he expected                                                               
progress to be made on those two issues.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:32:57 PM                                                                                                                    
DALLAS  MASSIE,   Commander,  American  Legion   Post,  testified                                                               
against  the Parks  Highway-Wasilla  Bypass. He  noted a  problem                                                               
with the design plan and a  traffic light on the project. He made                                                               
suggestions for  changes to  the plan,  maintaining there  was no                                                               
vision for the future.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAUL GARDNER,  representing himself, testified against  the Parks                                                               
Highway-Wasilla  Bypass.  He  discussed the  four  DOT  meetings,                                                               
which he found inadequate. He  maintained that DOT wanted to push                                                               
their project  through and did  not listen to opposing  views. He                                                               
spoke  of  his  appeal  to  the  planning  officials,  which  was                                                               
granted.  He  continued to  testify  against  the Parks  Highway-                                                               
Wasilla Bypass and detailed his complaints.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
BETH BASSNEY,  representing herself, testified against  the Parks                                                               
Highway-Wasilla  Bypass.  She  said  she   was  upset  about  her                                                               
building being torn down and the lack of communication.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
BETH  FREAD, representing  herself, testified  against the  Parks                                                               
Highway-Wasilla  Bypass. She  spoke of  her experience  attending                                                               
meetings and making  requests, which she said,  were ignored. She                                                               
listed  her reasons  for opposition,  such as  lack of  light and                                                               
space. She suggested a 5-lane road.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:47:51 PM                                                                                                                    
ROBERT HALL,  representing Mayor Thompson, testified  against the                                                               
Parks  Highway-Wasilla Bypass.  He disputed  the location  of the                                                               
project  and said  it  divides two  commercially  zoned areas  in                                                               
Houston. He complained about the  details of the current plan. He                                                               
voiced concern about U-turns and the attitude of DOT.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH asked for clarification  that Mr. Hall was speaking                                                               
for the City of Houston.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. HALL  said he was  speaking in place  of the mayor.  He noted                                                               
that a formal response from Houston would be forthcoming.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:18 PM                                                                                                                    
TIM   SWEZEY,   representing   himself,  testified   during   the                                                               
discussion  of the  Parks  Highway-Wasilla  Bypass. He  suggested                                                               
that the  Mat-Su Borough  also participate  in the  discussion of                                                               
the   project  because   they   share   concerns  about   highway                                                               
improvements. He described the  Parks Highway transportation plan                                                               
as it relates to the Mat-Su.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL KRAMER, President, Big Lake  Community Council, testified in                                                               
favor  of  the Parks  Highway-Wasilla  Bypass.  He described  Big                                                               
Lake's  current  use  of  the  highway and  the  goals  of  their                                                               
transportation   committee.  He   said  the   4-lane  Bypass   is                                                               
consistent  with Big  Lake's transportation  plan. He  shared his                                                               
own  experience with  improvements to  his property.  He was  not                                                               
opposed to  looking at  other options,  but stressed  that safety                                                               
was of utmost importance.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BERKLEY  TILTON,  Knik   Fairview  Community  Council,  testified                                                               
against  the  Parks  Highway-Wasilla Bypass.  He  voiced  concern                                                               
about a  future road  development in  the Knik  area. He  noted a                                                               
negative economic impact from having  a divided highway. He spoke                                                               
against changes to the main road  in Houston. He did not know how                                                               
school busses would make turnarounds on the Parks Highway.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:03:13 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. AMUNDSEN pointed out that there  are still a number of issues                                                               
to be worked out  on the project. There is a  process DOT uses to                                                               
deal with  the challenges.  He said  he expects  to work  for two                                                               
more years  addressing businesses' concerns. He  stressed that it                                                               
is a process and DOT is now  at the point where they deal one-on-                                                               
one to solve right-of-way issues.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:05:04 PM                                                                                                                    
VERNE  RUPRIGHT, Mayor,  City of  Wasilla, testified  against the                                                               
Parks Highway-Wasilla Bypass.  He referred to a  photo of Wasilla                                                               
to  clarify the  layout. He  recalled the  history of  the George                                                               
Parks Highway  in the 70's. He  said that the Mat-Su  Borough has                                                               
three organized cities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He related  that Wasilla has  changed dramatically over  the last                                                               
20 years.  He suggested lowering  the speed limit in  Wasilla. He                                                               
said there  is no  room for  the city to  grow. He  described two                                                               
areas with  a divided  highway and  predicted that  higher speeds                                                               
would cause  more injuries.  He described  how the  Parks Highway                                                               
became Wasilla's main  street. He did not want  Wasilla to become                                                               
a crossroad of two major highways.                                                                                              
He urged  DOT to continue the  public process and to  look at the                                                               
possibility of using  a divided 5-lane highway.  He gave examples                                                               
of other communities that use 5-lanes to accommodate businesses.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:15:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGGINS  suggested  bypasses  might  be  an  answer.  He                                                               
requested Mayor Rupright's opinion of a bypass to Wasilla.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR RUPRIGHT  related how a  bypass might work and  the changes                                                               
it might present for the city.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:18:05 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   MENARD  thanked   the   committee   for  hearing   this                                                               
contentious issue.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS  echoed  Senator  Menard's ideas.  He  said  the                                                               
process is  about progress and  better roads. He  appreciated the                                                               
forum.  He suggested  DOT give  consideration to  moose crossings                                                               
and  the Stanly  light. He  also suggested  that there  should be                                                               
more discussions with property owners.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KOOKESH said he appreciated the discussion.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:21:21 PM                                                                                                                    
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair  Kookesh  adjourned   the  Senate  Transportation  Standing                                                               
Committee at 2:21 p.m.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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